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Animal Abuse
Topic Started: Feb 22 2012, 03:29 AM (1,693 Views)
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I think that there should be very strong laws against this. What are your views on animal abuse?

Many kids (especially teenage boys) my age think it's funny to hurt an animal or joke around about hurting/killng them. I don't find any of it funny in the slightest. Whether it's a dog or a squirrel, I'm completely against abuse in any way, shape, or form. Animals are a big part of this world and every human should respect them. They have just as much a right to live on this planet as we do.
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We should be focusing on reducing human on human abuse/depravity before other species. You know, get our priorities straight... somewhat.

Animal abuse is a reflection of bad parenting, making certain actions 'even more illegal' wont really solve anything (like pretty much every other law). Laws teach people to avoid being caught, they do not prevent the behavior in question. You can discredit primitive parenting measures such as spanking, shouting, etc, in the same way.

People/children hurt smaller animals because they themselves were abused with the same core mentality, 'might makes right', they feel the need to assert their physical dominance over something, anything. They need to somehow express that the are not a 'helpless animal', so they enact a roll-reversal.

We can indirectly solve animal abuse by properly addressing child abuse, laws are an ineffective approach.
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I'm not for animal abuse. I think it's ok to punish an animal but the unnecessary crap is stupid like "Dur hey watch me kick my dog!" or "Let's throw kittens in a river!". I think at our intelligence level we should be able to make the right moral decisions, though sadly that's not always the case :|

And for the laws I think they're strict enough. You tend to loose your pet(s) when found mistreating them. Though unless they have psychological problems I don't really see what's the point in taking them out of society and throwing them in jail.
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Put simply, most people supporting animal abuse are psychopaths/sociopaths, or mentally disturbed in some form. Either that or they're succumbing to peer pressure/other disturbed people.

Awareness of animal abuse should be made larger, and I believe there are already strong laws against animal abuse.
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I thought there were? At least I know there are here. The Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals is very important for this. They get involved in all sorts animal of cruelty based issues. They're like the 5th emergency service in my opinion.

In New York a few years back, someone was poisoning the pidgeons and peoples dogs were eating the poison and then dying from it. The police got involved there. So yeah, there are many laws protecting the rights of animals. Fox Hunting was banned here too. It was disgusting and I'm glad it was band.

I love animals. I'm firmly against whaling. I turn off Youtube videos if I see a person mishandling their pets. Usually dogs or cats. As if their pet is a mere object to be thrown around.


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There aren't strong enough laws if I see kids throwing rocks at squirrels almost every day with no consequences. But that may simply be the way kids are being brought up nowadays.
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Feb 22 2012, 03:41 AM
There aren't strong enough laws if I see kids throwing rocks at squirrels almost every day with no consequences. But that may simply be the way kids are being brought up nowadays.
I don't think kids should be getting in trouble with the law over hitting squirrels with rocks. Someone should tell em to stop but it's really up to the parents IMO. I mean, you gotta have pretty good aim to hit a squirrel with a rock ;)
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I agree with you, OFG.

I'll be honest. I like animals more than humans, so call me biased if you please. If there was a dog and a random person I didn't know trapped in a burning building, I'd save the dog and then go back for the person. I really don't like humans that much; I'm pretty pessimistic of our species.

I don't tolerate animal abuse at all. If I know you're abusing an animal, I'll report you. If you do it in front of me, I won't hesitate to kick your ***** and see how you like it, even if it puts me in jail for a night or two.

If I had it my way, animal abuse would be punishable by death, or at least incarceration for very long periods of time. I'm pretty passionate about this subject.
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I dont know if they should be punished with death. But it shouldnt be tolerated at all.
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Don't you guys realize that putting stricter, more violent laws in place is in the exact same parenting mentality that contributed toward the tendency for certain people to abuse animals? Does it not seem ridiculous? This is no solution.
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I dont know if they should be punished with death. But it shouldnt be tolerated at all.
Yeah, death is a bit extreme, but I wouldn't let them get away with a misdemeanor or any of that small-time crap. You hurt an animal, especially if you kill it for no reason other than entertainment or taking out your anger (outside of sport), you should be locked up.
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Well I don't feel quite that passionate about animals to put an animal before a human unless I know the human is an *****. I would agree that people should get the same kind of sentences for the murder or cruel treatement of animals though. Well certain animals like cats, dogs, horses ect. Not rodents or insects of course. Rats and insects spread diseases so I have no problem with those little bastards being culled.

As for the squirrels, I hate squirrels. I think they look evil, I think they're viscious and nasty and full of disease and mites and all sorts of other nasty crap. But that doesn't excuse a child throwing rocks at them. Child's parents should tell him to stop. Can't really arrest a child for irritating a squirrel though really.


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Feb 22 2012, 03:58 AM
Don't you guys realize that putting stricter, more violent laws in place is in the exact same parenting mentality that contributed toward the tendency for certain people to abuse animals? Does it not seem ridiculous? It is no solution.
Why shouldn't there be laws put in place? There are strict laws against murdering humans. Why not animals? I don't see how laws caused parents to bring up their children poorly.
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Feb 22 2012, 04:00 AM
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Feb 22 2012, 03:58 AM
Don't you guys realize that putting stricter, more violent laws in place is in the exact same parenting mentality that contributed toward the tendency for certain people to abuse animals? Does it not seem ridiculous? It is no solution.
Why shouldn't there be laws put in place? There are strict laws against murdering humans. Why not animals? I don't see how laws caused parents to bring up their children poorly.
Well then, do the laws regarding murder actually stop murder? Not exactly a solution. Especially since governments are allowed to murder all they like during 'war' and it is considered morally correct. I believe we're taking the wrong approach here.

Imposed laws do have an enormous effect on how parents view the world and treat their kids.
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Actually I'd say that they do to a large extent. It makes a lot of people who would ordinarily be tempted to hurt someone, stop and think of the possible consequences before they act and subsequently think of other ways to punish people they don't like.


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